A Conversation with a Leftist Activist

A conversation with a Leftist activist

cropped-Christianity-Islam-Judaism.pngAAABTonto: This is an article by Robert Spencer that he posted at Jihad Watch, I thought you all might enjoy …

Recently a man named Richard Potter, who describes himself as a “social worker and activist” and is a contributor to Your Middle East, began writing me rude messages on Twitter. We ended up having a long exchange about debating, and ultimately he sent me a long email explaining why he thought my work was “belittling” to Muslims.

Since I think Potter’s beliefs and assumptions about my work are commonly held, at least among Leftists and Islamic supremacists, and since views such as his are obviously mainstream given the British banning and other cancellations of my talks, I thought I’d present Potter’s letter here with my answers interspersed, by way of explaining why I do what I do. Note that this is not a back-and-forth, but my responses to his many particular points in one long email. (Potter’s spelling and grammar are unaltered from his original email.)

Potter: Your attacks on Islam are belittling and hurtful to Muslims in the same ways that attacks on the bible, Catholicism, and Christianity are belittling to their believers.

Spencer: So you think that Christopher Hitchens’ attacks on Christianity are just as bad as my writings? Do you think there is any place for criticism of a religion, or do you think that religions should be off-limits to criticism? I am a Christian myself and don’t think that attacks on the Bible or the faith are in the least belittling as such — in fact, I welcome them. If one’s faith can’t withstand critics and criticism, then I am not sure it is worth holding.

Potter: I could very easily point out the correlation between violence against Homosexuals in America and Christianity, especially because it is supported by scripture.

Spencer: Could you really? Could you point me to a case where someone attacked a homosexual and quoted scripture to justify it? I can give you 1000 cases (and more) where Muslims killed someone and quoted Qur’an to justify it. Is it wrong to point out that they do that? Is it belittling? And if you come back and say, “No, but you tar all Muslims with responsibility and guilt for such instances,” I would ask you to provide even one example where I’ve actually done that.

Potter: I could point out that the Catholic Churches belief in the limit to err within it’s own hierarchy and scriptural supported belief to handle matters internally has led to an epidemic of pedophilia and child abuse,

Spencer: You could make a case for that. Are you saying that it would be inherently wrong or belittling to do so? Or are you saying that because a case can be made against the Catholic Church, one should not make any case against Islam?

Potter: I could point out that the scriptural support that it is good and justifiable to own slaves lent itself all too easily to centuries of it in the United States, and it still continues in parts of the Global South today with similar justifications.

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Western Denial Sets a Dangerous Precedent


TOMMY ROBINSON EDL ON NEAR FM JULY 2ND 2013

Opinion by AAABTonto:

As you listen to the above interview you will hear the interviewer repeatedly try interject his own preconceptions of Islam as fact, when it is quite clear to me that this person is utterly ignorant of Islam. He claims that there is no evidence” that the Qur’an promotes violence, when the it clearly does. Late in the interview he is critical of Tommy Robinson for inviting Pamella Geller to the UK to speak because she is “hostile” to Islam. How is it that a critical analysis of Islam is “aggressive” or “derogatory” towards Muslims?

It is not …

Sahih al-Bukhari 6922 Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.”

Qur’an 5:51O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Qur’an 9:29Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Qur’an 4:24Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess.

… But there is no evidence that the Qur’an promotes violence. Of course there isn’t—if you didn’t read the Qur’an to begin with!

This “politically correct” lens that those in the main stream media (MSM) and on the progressive left of the spectrum force everyone to view the world through is the very reason that we can’t convince those same people of reality. It is true that there are a few sects of Islam that renounce violence and have a “live and let live” philosophy, but they are the exception and they are criticized and persecuted by the other more orthodox Muslims. So what is Islam?


What Is Islam?

Is there any likelihood that those of us who know the difference between critical analysis and slander will ever convince the MSM to realize their folly and change their ways? I don’t think so … they will simply have to replaced and they are—by people like me and you who value truth and the miracle of life.

Warning the following is very graphic:

“Put yourself in my shoes”: BBC runs puff piece lauding Syrian jihadi cannibal

“Face-to-face with Abu Sakkar, Syria’s ‘heart-eating cannibal,'” by Paul Wood for BBC News, July 5–why do these journalists have to twist themselves into pretzels in order to find a way to legitimize this kind of savagery? What is the need to “understand” the motive of a group of people who have sworn violence, demonstrated violence and pledged to subjugate everyone in the world to Islam?

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Examine the following video. We are provided with a textbook example of Muhammad’s teachings. Egyptian Muslims take notice a Christian girl and begin to yell “Nasara!” (Christians). They then proceed to tear the girl’s clothes off, while shouting “Allahu Akbar!” The cameraman is then pushed out of the way and we don’t see what happened to the unfortunate girl:


غتصاب مسيحيات في وضح النهار وسط صيحات التكبير

Day after day for decades now we have watched as the terrorists have waged a holy war against the West and blamed us for its results. Simultaneously, the progressive elements of western society have proclaimed that poverty and inequality are reasons for their hostility towards us and it is we who must reach out to Islam and demonstrate our good faith. Well, we’ve done that in the form of billions of dollars in foreign aid that is then used to fund more terrorist activities. That, in my opinion, proves that the progressive’s perverse presumption is 100% incorrect—devout Muslims are going to attack us (the nonbelievers) because their doctrine commands them to do so. It is that damn simple!

Sudan: Islamic leader calls for decisive action against converts from Islam to Christianity

Brothers MuslimAs previously stated, I have no animus toward Muslims; but, if they are unwilling to accept others whose beliefs differ from their own and they find it just to commit violence upon them simply for that reason, then what respect do we owe them? How is possible to reason or find compromise with them? We cannot expect them to cease their persecution of us simply because we find a way to make neurotic excuses for their abhorrent behavior.

John Stuart Mill“The only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it.”
– John Stuart Mill

Ich Bin Ein Kuffar

obama maniacalIch Bin Ein Kuffar

Opinion by AAABTonto:

Millions of Egyptians took to the streets this week in the largest political demonstration in the history of mankind to demand that President Morsi step down. Our media virtually ignored it.

Morsi declined. The Egyptian military gave him 48 hours to effect a political turnaround or resign and he refused. They arrested him. Mohammed Morsi, the democratically-elected president is, or was, the Muslim Brotherhood’s political point man in the Middle East and was fully endorsed by the Obama administration. Obama has said he is “deeply concerned” by the Egyptian military’s political intervention and released a statement calling for a return to civilian rule:

“We are deeply concerned by the decision of the Egyptian Armed Forces to remove President Morsi and suspend the Egyptian constitution,” Obama said. “I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically-elected civilian government as soon as possible.”

Although the US did not call for Mr Morsi’s return to power, the administration urged the military against “any arbitrary arrests” of the ousted president or his Muslim Brotherhood supporters. However, Mr. Morsi was reportedly being held at a military facility while Egyptian troops rounded up hundreds of MB senior Islamists.

Hamas-linked CAIR, other Muslim Brotherhood groups and spokesmen in U.S. crestfallen over Morsi’s ouster

This is an amazing turn of events as it is well known that the Obama administration is supportive of the MB and had instigated the ouster of Morsi’s predecessor, Hosni Mubarak. This was the center piece of Obama’s beloved “Arab Spring” of which Obama proudly boasted, claiming it was a “new democracy for the Middle East.” The only problem was that Egyptians didn’t share Obama’s opinion of Mohammed Morsi.

Egypt’s Dangerous Turmoil Is Ultimately Obama’s Doing

This event proves Obama’s illegitimacy in foreign policy and it is shirt he cannot remove. Russia and China have thumbed their nose at Obama in recent weeks. Assad has danced all over Obama’s “red line” daring him to take action in a hell-hole, where the US has no business doing anything–despite the maniacal aspirations of John McCain and Lyndsey Graham. Obama is a paper tiger.

Egypt protests Morsi and Obama

Morsi has pitted Egyptians against one another after declaring emergency power and forcing through a theocratic constitution while intimidating opponents this past November and December. The Muslim Brotherhood condemned the U.N.’s declaration on women’s rights in March, and said it would “lead to the complete disintegration of society.” 

Since the MB political takeover in Egypt, violence has reigned supreme and their fragile economy has taken a nose dive. Tourism is down to a trickle. Coptic Christians have been persecuted, murdered and their churches burned in large numbers, while Obama has stood by and said nothing.

New Egyptian authorities shut down three Islamic supremacist TV channels and raid Al Jazeera’s offices

The Egyptian people don’t give a damn about Obama’s arrogant visions of an “Arab Spring” or the Muslim Brotherhood’s political aspirations. They want their country back from nearly a century of broken promises. They want jobs, food and their way of life returned–they want their pride restored. Obama thinks that because he was raised as Muslim that he is respected by Muslims and from what I have seen and learned that isn’t how it works. Obama is kuffar …


Thousands of Salafis in Tunisia: Obama, We Are All Osama

Obama does not even respect the people who voted for him. Everyone is beneath him because he is the smartest person in every room he enters. He despises our Constitution and the Founding Fathers who authored it, but he might take a lesson from them if he would bother himself to do so:

Thomas jefferson 1“We are the friends of liberty everywhere, custodians only of our own.”
– Thomas Jefferson

Britain has Capitulated to Islam

Opinion by AAABTonto:

While perusing the web earlier I came across an article that claimed that leaders of EDL (English Defense League),Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll, had been arrested in in the UK while on a walk for charity. The charity walk was hosted for a young cancer victim.  Police had apparently warned them to avoid areas with mosques and faced arrest if they went ahead with a planned walk. Then, upon nearing Woolwich, southeast London, where Lee Rigby was hacked to death, an EDL-opponent attacked them–so police arrested Tommy and Kevin. Fortunately, the incident was captured by cameras …


Tommy Robinson & Kevin Carroll of the EDL assaulted then arrested during charity walk to Woolwich

I was not entirely familiar with the EDL and upon doing some further investigation I found a slanderous article that not only derided the leaders of the EDL, but also the characters of Pamella Geller and Robert Spencer. A portion of the article:

… Lennon’s arrest followed his illegal entry into the US last September to attend a conference organised by notorious Islam-hating Zionists Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, whose “anti-Jihadist” organisation Stop Islamization of Our Nation–SION! –  he is a board member.

EDL or IDL?

Lennon’s attendance at a Zionist-organised conference should come as no surprise, because the English Defence League have openly pledged loyalty to Israel. In an article posted on the EDL website and published on Geller’s ‘Atlas Shrugs’ blog in June 2011 [2], Lennon made his devotion to the Jewish state perfectly clear:

“One of the fundamental beliefs that this movement was built on was its support for Israel’s right to defend itself. In our first demonstrations, we went to Birmingham, and we flew the flag of Israel, the Star of David. In the first public speech I ever gave, I wore the Star of David in Leeds. The reason for this is because Israel is a shining star of democracy. If Israel falls, we all fall.” …

Not only have they slandered Geller and Spencer, the UK has banned them from entering the country!

A bridge too far: Leftist writers argue that Spencer and Geller should be admitted into the UK

It is quite apparent that the British media, indeed the British government, is more concerned with political correctness than with the sovereignty of their own nation. They are more interested in placating and appeasing the Islamists than preventing the collapse of their very existence. The antisemitism and hatred of Christians is blatantly obvious. I couldn’t count the number of times they derided Zionists and touted “neocons” as the origin of all evil all in the face of increasing Islamic violence within their own country!


Muslims Attack London Police (Jan 3 2009)

UK: EDL leaders arrested for attempting to walk through “Muslim area”


Sharia Comes to Great Britain

Finally, I would ask you Americans out there in the blogosphere to ask yourselves a question. Do you think that is possible that this kind of irrationality could happen here in the United States? Well, you are too late, because it’s already happening. David Wood and Nabeel Qureshi have already experienced this kind of treatment right here in the heart of Michigan:


Dearborn Arrests (Unedited Video Footage, by Request)

Muslim Brotherhood-linked, pro-Hamas Sheikh visits White House

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